"The universe is a communion of subjects, not a collection of objects" is the way we should view the natural world, according to Thomas Berry, a historian of cultures and author of The Dream of the Earth. In this hour-long interview conducted by John Swindells, he talks about the havoc wrought by science, technology, economics, and corporations. The ravaging of the earth has put in jeopardy the future of our children's children.

The myth of progress has given nations the go-ahead to plunder the natural world for resources. Berry calls our generation "autistic" — we are locked in ourselves and unable to commune or communicate with nature. The universities and the churches have failed to speak out against "the crime of our century." In fact, Berry believes that good people who have a distorted view of what's good are behind this continuing abuse of nature.

The only light on the horizon — we can learn from native peoples who engender a reverence for the ever-renewing processes of the natural world and join ecological organizations that are working to protect the earth.