"So, finally, worship — that is obviously integral to your life and involved in all this process. What is worship doing?

"That's a nice question. Worship, OK, let me say in the language we've been using, I have this image that God has been saying from all eternity, 'You are my beloved'. From all eternity, before we were born, we existed in the mind of God. God loved us before our fathers and mothers loved us. This whole issue is important, because in the world, my father, my mother, my brother, my sister, and my teachers all love me, but they also wound me. No human being can only love us, they always wound us. We are wounded mostly by those who love us. We are wounded by the suffering of people in Somalia, but I am wounded by my mother who didn't love me well enough, or by my father who was so authoritarian, or by my teacher, or by my church.

"The people who love me are always the ones who hurt me because they also have needs. God's love is a love that isn't wounding because it's eternal. God loves me from all eternity to all eternity. Life, this little bit of life — thirty, forty, fifry, sixty, seventy, eighty years, is not very long. It's just one little chance for us to say 'Yes' to them, 'We love you too'. That's what life is about, and that chance to say 'Yes' is what time is about. Kairos, not chronos; kairos, the other Greek word for time, means opportunity to change your heart. There are as many opportunities to change your heart as there are events that you're part of. Everything is an opportunity to change your heart — a friend to visit, the mother who comes to visit, the museum, whatever, that's life. Looked upon from below, it's chronos; I have to survive, and I have to fight my way through it. Looked at from above, it is kairos; it's the opportunity to change your heart in everything you do."