Jack Engler asked Dipa Ma about the place of fun in Buddhist practice. "This all sounds very gray," he said. "Getting rid of passion, getting rid of anger, getting rid of desire. It seems like a kind of gray existence. Where's the juice?"

"Oh, you don't understand!" Dipa Ma burst out laughing. "There is so much sameness in ordinary life. We are always experiencing everything through the same set of lenses. Once greed, hatred, and delusion are gone, you see everything fresh and new all the time. Every moment is new. Life was dull before. Now, every day, every moment is full of taste and zest."

Amy Schmidt, Dipa Ma